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September 24, 2026 · 57 minutes
David Drebin Website Content & Menu & VR Gallery Direction
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Look on Apple website, maybe below yeah, probably below 20, maybe 25 normal David Drebin — Sep 24 call
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Share my screen then normal David Drebin — Sep 24 call
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Send her high enough, like, send her a Dropbox folder with with not high-res printing for gas normal David Drebin — Sep 24 call
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Send her low res, and tell her, okay, pick, tell us which one you want, and we will send you high-res normal David Drebin — Sep 24 call
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Put Dream the World in the Book section as the top book normal David Drebin — Sep 24 call
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Full Transcript 744 turns
Arseni
Maestro.
0:05
David Drebin
How are ya?
0:07
Arseni
Good.
0:09
David Drebin
How's real?
0:10
Arseni
Well, I spend 12 hours a day working on your stuff, so I don't know how it works. But it's raining, it's raining.
0:12
David Drebin
Good, I'm happy it's raining, and I want you to work harder on my stuff, I'm not at you.
0:20
Arseni
No.
0:23
David Drebin
Funny. I'm so mad at you. I'm okay.
0:25
David Drebin
When you're in… when you're in Paraguay. When you're… when you're a Rio, I… I question my life. What am I doing? Why am I here? You know what I mean?
0:28
Arseni
I'll catch up, I'll catch up, so you can question yourself in a couple of days.
0:37
David Drebin
Oh, no! Okay, but yeah, we're close, we're close. So, basically, Look.
0:42
David Drebin
We knew this would happen, we just gotta get these details, you know what I mean? Like, this is shit I didn't see. So… it's just best… it just… no one's doing anything wrong, we just want to make this the best site it can be. You know what I mean?
0:48
Arseni
Okay.
1:00
David Drebin
So, nothing wasted. You know, we're only as good as our worst picture, our worst section.
1:01
David Drebin
You know what I mean? I remember I used to have portfolios, I was like, you're only as good
1:06
David Drebin
As your worst picture. You know what I mean?
1:11
Arseni
Okay. So… I agree.
1:14
David Drebin
Yeah, so where do we start? I mean, like, I'll let…
1:16
Arseni
Worked with,
1:21
Arseni
Something that I'm not sure I communicated this to you clearly, what happened with your phone when you were on 16% charge, so, your phone, or saving your battery. So, when that happens, we designed a couple of options, for you to click on the triangle. They're above here in Telegram.
1:22
Arseni
I will go with the
1:45
Arseni
Minimalist one on black background, and not.
1:47
David Drebin
I don't see any… I don't see anything right now.
1:51
Arseni
In Telegram, Website Development with David Mira, doesn't matter, I'm just gonna share my screen then. Yeah. Just give me…
1:53
Arseni
A second,
2:02
Arseni
As I'm sharing my screen, do you have questions about this? Like, it's… we cannot avoid it just happens on our.
2:04
David Drebin
I can't see your screen.
2:11
Arseni
Hold on.
2:13
Arseni
Okay, can you see it now?
2:21
David Drebin
Yup.
2:23
Arseni
Okay, two options. We call… let's call this a poster. I will go with the clean one, just black background and a triangle.
2:24
Arseni
I don't want to show your logo twice, like I said yesterday, because it's redundant, so I think people will figure out they need to click here to play. If they don't want to play anything, they could click on this, arrow pointing down to see the content.
2:32
David Drebin
When will that… when will that come up? When the phone's down at 20%?
2:48
Arseni
Yeah, I think it's below 20. I mean, I'll look on Apple website, maybe below… yeah, probably below 20, maybe 25.
2:51
Arseni
And it's only the latest iOS, because we've never seen this before on any other iOS. I mean, Mira, did you… what's your iOS? Did you see that on a low battery?
2:58
Mira
Yes, I just, shared that with, even. Maybe 10 minutes ago, we had a call, and we,
3:09
Mira
It was the same. It was a black…
3:17
Mira
You know, like, black, nothing, and my phone was on 7%.
3:20
Arseni
I mean, it could be… what could it be? It could be an animated GIF, by the way. It's just that it's up to us to decide what we want people to look at, here.
3:25
Arseni
But…
3:39
David Drebin
Crazy.
3:40
Arseni
Is only.
3:40
David Drebin
I never thought…
3:41
Arseni
Beautiful.
3:42
Mira
Sorry, I said this is only for people who, are on low battery.
3:42
Arseni
On low battery, latest iOS, and I'm sure you can go to iOS settings and cancel… turn this off, battery saving mode, but nobody will ever do it. So, let's just work with what we have. So, a triangle, or it could be probably an animated.
3:48
Arseni
You have normal battery, right?
4:04
Arseni
The same video.
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Arseni
Just keyframes from that video.
4:08
Arseni
Oh, that still is a rectangle, sorry, a triangle, to play the actual video. Does it make sense?
4:12
Arseni
Maybe we just get rid of that, triangle. We just show animated GIF, with the keyframes from… from the intro video. What do you think?
4:22
Mira
Why don't people just charge their batteries?
4:33
Arseni
Well, we cannot expect this. I mean, people on the go, what are they going to charge? We're gonna charge their battery?
4:35
David Drebin
I'd rather… I'd rather have the play arrow.
4:41
Arseni
A plane what?
4:44
David Drebin
I'd rather have that play arrow, as opposed to changing the video.
4:47
Arseni
Okay, but how did… did you like the idea to show animated GIF, kind of like in your email signature, with different images, like a selection of 5 images from the same intro?
4:52
David Drebin
Yeah, sure.
5:05
Arseni
Okay, we could test, we'll test it, we'll show you a demo, just to see if you like that.
5:06
Arseni
Okay. So, now, why don't we talk about this?
5:12
Arseni
It's about 20 images here for exhibitions and art fairs. I…
5:19
Arseni
It's a strip that moves endlessly, yes, it should stay endlessly, I just… I don't think I understood what you were…
5:24
David Drebin
Okay.
5:31
Arseni
I understood. Can I think I understood.
5:31
Arseni
Yes.
5:35
Mira
David, it looks, it seems like, when you said that the images are, I don't know, they are…
5:36
Mira
Something is wrong. You probably wanted to increase the image in the slideshow with your fingers, did you?
5:45
Arseni
And then… No.
5:52
David Drebin
No.
5:53
Arseni
Try to do that. No.
5:54
David Drebin
No, this is what I wanted.
5:56
David Drebin
I want the book.
5:59
David Drebin
Like, so many galleries want me all over the world. I've had shows all over the world. I don't want 20 images. This is the most important section. This is the ultimate third-party validation section.
6:01
David Drebin
I want, 100 images here. I don't want 22, I want 100 images.
6:15
Arseni
Okay, we could decide, which 100, now, we could do it later, I mean, we…
6:21
David Drebin
Pick the best hundred.
6:28
Arseni
Good.
6:30
Arseni
Okay, well, why don't…
6:31
David Drebin
And, the latest, and very little with my hat. Very little.
6:32
Arseni
I think we'll, do it later, we can do it… go over it in another Zoom call if you want, but I'll.
6:40
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David Drebin
No.
6:47
Arseni
Warm.
6:47
David Drebin
Do it, just do it. You could do it in 5 minutes. I don't… you know, we don't need me. Just pick the 100 best…
6:48
Arseni
Yes, exactly.
6:53
Arseni
Okay, so you said something, I want this to stop when I scroll down, and I didn't understand. Why would we stop this?
6:56
David Drebin
Oh, no, hold on.
7:02
David Drebin
I want that to constantly be moving. I don't want it to stop.
7:05
Arseni
Yeah.
7:09
David Drebin
It's moving now, that's good.
7:09
Arseni
Yeah.
7:11
David Drebin
That's great. I love it. I just need… I need way more of this. I love it. I just need way more of it.
7:12
Arseni
Yeah.
7:17
David Drebin
You want? Yeah.
7:17
Arseni
Yeah, possibly.
7:18
David Drebin
Hold on. It's like, it's like ordering…
7:18
David Drebin
A plate of french fries, and they give you 7 fries. Give me a fucking plate of fries.
7:24
Arseni
Thank you.
7:30
Arseni
Okay.
7:31
Mira
What is glitching? Because I checked my phone, and nothing was glitching.
7:32
Arseni
You said that.
7:36
Arseni
Is that urgent.
7:37
Arseni
Yes, I… Could you explain this to us? Like, what was glitchy, David, on this page?
7:40
David Drebin
Wasn't moving on my phone.
7:47
Arseni
It's because of your battery.
7:50
Arseni
No, I think when you put your finger on that strip, I think it stops moving, because you can move it with your finger.
7:51
Arseni
Yes.
7:58
Arseni
We could double-check that moment. What happens when you tap, do nothing? It should resume moving automatically. We'll just check to make sure that's how it works.
7:58
Arseni
Double-check it now.
8:10
Arseni
Yeah, you can check it now. Next question is, 2021, 2020, they're both short. Sure. We will merge them. Okay. Because this looks, just…
8:12
David Drebin
Okay, for sure, okay, sure.
8:24
Arseni
Okay, so that's all about this, let's see, let's see, let me just see what David
8:25
Arseni
Telegram, from the beginning.
8:34
David Drebin
Let's just go through everything.
8:39
Arseni
Yeah, like, it doesn't matter what David posted, we could just look at, the whole site again. Like, start, starting here…
8:41
David Drebin
Hold on, I'm not looking at the screen right now. I'm just, I'm just, I'm… I'll be back in 30 seconds, but we can talk.
8:49
Arseni
Okay.
8:56
Arseni
Mira, is there anything else you wanted to clarify?
8:58
Mira
Yes, about, special projects.
9:01
David Drebin
Yeah, it should just start with special projects, you know,
9:04
Mira
Not, I talked to Ivan, and… So that's, that's a website.
9:11
Mira
That's a website, but, mobile, has, this 2020, and there is a empty space, and below is the first, in-right.
9:17
Mira
And I think that's the problem for you, David, right?
9:29
Arseni
Maybe it says something about the random, but it's not random.
9:32
Mira
No, it's not random, I checked it 3 times. No, it's not, and it can't be random, it's not…
9:35
David Drebin
No, I don't, yeah, I don't want this rainbow.
9:41
Arseni
I don't want to hear.
9:43
Mira
Well, they talked about that, and you said, I want the latest things.
9:44
David Drebin
Yes. This is… this is a perception website, okay? It's all about perceptions. You want to start with the latest. The latest, it's… it's like… it's like showing the news in a different way, you know what I mean?
9:50
David Drebin
So, right now, I'm on my… is that a dog barking?
10:02
10:05
Arseni
That's my dog.
10:07
David Drebin
Okay.
10:09
Arseni
Can you please kill them?
10:10
David Drebin
Well, maybe you can put it in the other room. Okay, so, yeah, like, if you go to Special Projects, and the first thing you see is February 12th, it just doesn't… it's dated already, right? There, like…
10:12
David Drebin
It's… this is all about being current, so I… I like that, and I think it should be scrolling quickly, so I like that.
10:23
David Drebin
Special projects, I like that. I like that.
10:30
Arseni
Scrolling… well, you scroll it with your finger, so we don't have any automatic scroll there. Let me just go over there on mobile.
10:35
David Drebin
I'm gonna change… I'm also gonna change some of the copy here,
10:43
David Drebin
Based in New York City, David Drebnes created limited edition artworks for over 25 years. His work is represented internationally by leading galleries and held in major… Okay, no, it's good, it's good.
10:49
David Drebin
Yeah, it shows history. It shows history, and it shows that I'm, I've been around for a long time, like a restaurant. This restaurant, like, when I go to a new… a city, I want to go to a restaurant that's been there for 25 years. That's my favorite kind of restaurant, because it shows that it's been successful. I like that, so yeah, it's good. Okay, yes?
11:00
Arseni
In other words, no changes here besides the little copy, like, text change.
11:17
David Drebin
No, forget the text change, no. I just, I want to go to the site, like,
11:23
David Drebin
I have my laptop here, too, but I wanna go to the site with my phone.
11:28
David Drebin
As opposed to your screen, and tell you what bothers me. Can I do that or not?
11:33
Arseni
Yes, no, we should see the same thing. So, can you just share your screen from your, Zoom?
11:39
Mira
Listen, Arseni, I will send you now in,
11:45
David Drebin
Yes.
11:50
Mira
Tell us what bothers you. I know what bothers you.
11:51
David Drebin
I'm gonna assume.
11:55
Arseni
Let's see, let's see David's screen.
11:56
David Drebin
Okay.
11:59
Arseni
In Zoom, just press the.
12:00
David Drebin
I'm sharing, I'm sharing, I'm sharing, I'm sharing.
12:01
Arseni
Let's speak.
12:03
Arseni
I don't see it yet.
12:05
David Drebin
There it is.
12:07
Arseni
Okay. Because I already talked to.
12:08
Arseni
You know, do you see it? Do you see David's screen?
12:10
David Drebin
Go to my screen. Okay, here we go, let's go.
12:14
Arseni
Wow.
12:16
David Drebin
Alyssa, Ellie, Lena… Blair… R. Katie, Todd.
12:18
Arseni
Damn.
12:25
David Drebin
I like Tara, but she doesn't shave her pussy, so not her.
12:26
Arseni
Mickey's face.
12:29
Arseni
Head back.
12:31
David Drebin
He's fake.
12:31
Arseni
Okay.
12:32
David Drebin
I like Piara, Sierra's good from Rio, I like Claire as well, Apple's good. Okay. So, sorry, oh my god! I'm so sorry! I didn't mean what I was… oh my god!
12:32
Arseni
So, sorry.
12:44
David Drebin
Don't worry.
12:46
Arseni
I missed all of this! Where's that screen?
12:47
David Drebin
Okay, hold on. So here we go.
12:51
Arseni
The video now.
12:53
David Drebin
So look, so there's…
12:53
Arseni
It doesn't, it doesn't…
12:54
David Drebin
It doesn't come on.
12:55
Arseni
Oh, yeah.
12:56
David Drebin
It just doesn't come on. It just doesn't come on.
12:57
David Drebin
Right? Look, it's just… it's just… it's stopped on my name, that's the problem.
13:01
Arseni
Right?
13:05
Arseni
David's screen, I don't see anything.
13:07
Arseni
I see Dave's.
13:09
David Drebin
No, it took 20 seconds for it to load. It doesn't load right away. It took 20 seconds for it to load, and then it stopped.
13:10
David Drebin
Right? You see? Let me get Wi-Fi. And I'm in Wi-Fi right now, so…
13:18
David Drebin
It stopped. See, it's not moving. Stopped. You see my side? You see my…
13:22
Arseni
No, I don't, I don't see it. Ask to start video, I send that request, ask to start video, because I don't see it.
13:26
David Drebin
It's very glitchy, it's stopping, it's not moving, it's just… it's… it's… you see my screen right now?
13:39
Arseni
It stopped! I don't see it. I…
13:44
Arseni
What's that?
13:48
Arseni
But if you see it, if you see it, I hope it's gonna be recorded.
13:48
David Drebin
Hold on.
13:53
David Drebin
There.
13:54
Arseni
Yeah.
13:54
Arseni
Oh, I see something now. I see you. I just see you.
13:55
Arseni
Yes.
13:59
Arseni
Huh.
14:00
David Drebin
Okay, let's do the…
14:01
Arseni
Now I stop.
14:02
Arseni
Just share, maybe there's another link somewhere. Mira, did you see the screen?
14:04
Arseni
Yeah, David, can you try to, like.
14:12
David Drebin
There.
14:15
Arseni
Clear the cache.
14:15
Arseni
No, it's not about the cash, it's, I don't see David's phone. I see him sometimes.
14:18
Mira
Isaac And what is… now the video is playing.
14:24
Arseni
But never mind, it will be recorded.
14:29
Arseni
Oh, crap.
14:32
Arseni
Yeah, but I need to see…
14:35
Mira
Your internet is not good.
14:39
David Drebin
My internet's very good.
14:42
Arseni
No, absolutely.
14:44
Arseni
No.
14:45
David Drebin
It stopped, it just stopped. Right now, it just stopped on… it just stops on… it just stopped on an image, randomly, just stopped.
14:46
David Drebin
It's very glitchy. You see, it just stops, it's not even moving.
14:52
David Drebin
You know?
14:57
Arseni
Yeah, I see it.
14:58
David Drebin
See, look, it's just stopped on, like, on… Just… stopped.
14:59
Arseni
Okay, I can see, I can see the screen. Okay, let's…
15:05
Mira
Okay, David, let me… no, let me, ask you. Go to these three little dots next to your name.
15:09
David Drebin
Okay. Oh, up here?
15:16
Mira
New private tab. No. Click on these three dots.
15:18
Arseni
New private step.
15:23
Mira
Type your website.
15:25
Arseni
Okay, let's see.
15:29
Mira
You see, it was cash, now it starts.
15:34
Arseni
No, but of course, if you tap it, then it stops, and by the way, that's the feature where we… maybe we don't need it. If you hit it with your finger.
15:40
David Drebin
No, I don't want to stop it. I don't want to stop it. I don't want to stop it. Don't stop it. Do not stop it. Yeah, I hit it with my finger. Don't stop it. I don't want that.
15:47
Arseni
Okay, we'll, we'll, we'll…
15:55
Mira
See, it's playing, so it means that it was your… it's your cache on your…
15:56
Arseni
No, it's the…
16:00
David Drebin
I also… I also… I also don't want it to loop. I don't want it to loop. It's a one-time thing. I just think looping is not… I don't know, I don't think I want it to loop. Do you want it to loop? Do you like the looping?
16:02
Arseni
Yeah, I think it should look. Why…
16:14
Mira
Because people will not sit there for hours watching your video, they will just…
16:18
Arseni
We don't want to distract people, and it could stop at the logo. We don't want people to be distracted from the main conference.
16:23
David Drebin
Yeah, I think it should stop at the logo, and that's it. Stop at the logo. Do not lose.
16:30
David Drebin
And listen, if they want to see it again, they can press play. I do not want this to loop.
16:35
Arseni
Okay, so we'll design a play button. We'll maybe show that triangle that Ivan designed.
16:41
16:41
David Drebin
Yes.
16:48
Arseni
Yeah, and they can click.
16:48
David Drebin
See? I don't want it showing again. They'll hate the video. Do not do it again and again. No, don't do that.
16:50
Arseni
Yeah, it's too much, maybe too much.
16:57
Mira
You see that video plays now, when you are in…
16:59
David Drebin
Inconvenient.
17:02
Arseni
Private or all private.
17:02
David Drebin
Okay, so then I go lower, so then I go lower, okay? Limited edition artworks, okay, I like this. The collections, no. Sign up, not now. Okay, I click not now.
17:03
David Drebin
I'm gonna go Limit Edition Artworks.
17:14
David Drebin
Drebin's work exists the moment before. Okay,
17:17
David Drebin
Okay, good. Okay.
17:22
David Drebin
Yeah. I'll… I'll review all the images later, just in case I want to delete any, and I'll let you know, but I think it's good, so then I go… I go to… how do I… oh, I go to the menu again, I'm gonna go to the Dream Series, okay?
17:25
Arseni
What?
17:39
David Drebin
This is David Drebin as opposed to Drebin, but that's okay.
17:41
Arseni
Okay, so we'll consider, shortening David Drebin to just Drebin.
17:54
Arseni
On the whole website, wherever it happens, right?
17:59
David Drebin
I think so. I think it should be Drebin. I don't think it should be… I don't… it's like, you know, it says David Drebin once, everything else should just be Drebin.
18:02
Arseni
Yeah. You know? Okay. Okay.
18:08
David Drebin
Diamond dust collection.
18:11
Arseni
Yeah, Mira, I'll probably output the whole text of the whole website.
18:14
David Drebin
Can you lose the dash on… after light reflecting? Light dash reflecting? Because that looks like AI. Lose the dash on the diamond dust section? Light dash reflecting.
18:17
Arseni
Oh, okay.
18:28
Arseni
A light reflects in two words, two separate.
18:30
David Drebin
Yeah, two words, yeah, no dash, yeah.
18:33
David Drebin
They look great on this background, I don't know what you did, but they look great. They look great, I love it.
18:37
David Drebin
It's great.
18:42
Arseni
Put something with the code.
18:43
David Drebin
Okay, I'll look at… I'll look at the images later, okay?
18:47
Arseni
I'm just looking at the sections.
18:49
David Drebin
Okay? Superstar series.
18:50
David Drebin
I like this. It expands on the collectible-driven themes that made Below the Surface. Can you put that in quotes? Below the surface? Below the surface in quotes?
19:02
Arseni
Let me just find them below the surface, because…
19:11
Arseni
I don't see that. But, Mira, you know what to do. I just don't see…
19:14
Arseni
Superstar series.
19:18
Mira
That, artwork which is,
19:19
Arseni
Oh, I found it, yeah, second paragraph, okay, in four quotations. Yeah, and we'll apply this to every… every time an artwork is mentioned, we'll put it inside.
19:23
Mira
But it's not mentioned anywhere, just here.
19:34
David Drebin
Okay, good, okay, this is good. Okay, next section. Okay, this is really good right now. Okay, go to the dots here. Lenticular collection.
19:36
David Drebin
Oh, beautiful! Oh, Mira, I love you! Yay!
19:44
Arseni
They look way better on black, backgrounds.
19:50
David Drebin
Wait, what? I like it on the white background here. It shows that it's like a gallery. I like the order. I like the order.
19:54
Mira
Yeah, but the… Black beneath, distinct… distinguishes them.
20:00
David Drebin
It's great, I love the order, right? And these orders don't change, because these are the most powerful pieces, right? Can you switch…
20:08
Arseni
Honestly.
20:16
David Drebin
Could you… listen.
20:16
Mira
Sorry, Arseni, do we have lenticulars random?
20:17
David Drebin
No.
20:21
Arseni
No, they're not clear.
20:22
David Drebin
Switch… switch risky game and risky landing. Put risky landing.
20:24
Arseni
Yes, a risky legend in risky game.
20:28
David Drebin
Okay.
20:31
Arseni
We'll switch provisions.
20:32
David Drebin
Switch positions, okay.
20:34
David Drebin
Jerusalem, I love. Central Park. Misty's Secrets.
20:36
David Drebin
I would also put Below the Sur- no, it's good. I would put, switch Golden Dream and Below the Surface, because I want that to be the last one. Switch Golden Dream and Below the Surface, okay?
20:42
Arseni
Okay.
20:54
David Drebin
Okay.
20:54
David Drebin
Okay, let me look here, hold on a second. It says Drebin's lenticular, yeah, it should be Drebin or David Drebin, hold on a second.
20:56
David Drebin
Shift through…
21:02
David Drebin
What appears still at first glance begins to change.
21:09
David Drebin
Comma. Almost like two images in one.
21:14
David Drebin
Add a comma after change.
21:17
David Drebin
At first glance, begins to change, comma, almost like two images in one.
21:19
David Drebin
Should we… should we write almost, or…
21:26
David Drebin
I don't know if I like that word.
21:29
David Drebin
What appears to, at first glance, begins to change.
21:32
David Drebin
Make… no, making it seem… forget almost, making it seem like two images in one begins to change, making it seem, not almost.
21:37
David Drebin
Right?
21:48
Arseni
Okay.
21:49
David Drebin
Making it seem better, okay? That's good. That's good. Okay? Sculpture. Okay, this is the section, okay? Trevan Sculptures…
21:51
David Drebin
Capture his muses. I don't like capture his muses, okay?
22:00
Arseni
Hunter, huh?
22:04
David Drebin
No. No.
22:05
Arseni
No, I'm joking.
22:08
David Drebin
Trevan's Sculptures.
22:11
David Drebin
Capture his muses. No, it seems like I'm a pimp.
22:13
David Drebin
Capture…
22:16
Arseni
No, cop…
22:18
David Drebin
Capture,
22:19
David Drebin
Do you like Capturer's muses? You know, like, it's like fashion designers have muses, too.
22:33
David Drebin
What do you think?
22:39
David Drebin
Do you like this? Are you there?
22:41
Arseni
The word uses.
22:44
David Drebin
No, captures Drebin sculptures, captures… capture his muses or the muses.
22:45
Arseni
I would use the word there, the muses, not attaching them.
22:56
David Drebin
Exactly.
23:01
Arseni
Because David is not that perverted type surrounded by beautiful muses. Well, maybe he is.
23:07
David Drebin
Yeah, hold on a second. Yeah, much better, much, yeah, thumb uses. Them uses, not, yes, much better, okay?
23:14
David Drebin
Okay, so what I like about this is…
23:23
David Drebin
If you take, the first, like, I love what you did with Below the Surface, the last image should be a close-up of the girl.
23:27
David Drebin
Every time. So… so for the last image of… of the falling in love, we have the first one moving, then there's the second one I like, then there's a third… I like the third image. The fourth image is just… is… is good, and the fifth image should be a close-up of the fourth image.
23:36
Arseni
…
23:53
David Drebin
We don't need that, because that last image is, like, in mid-motion, we don't need that.
23:55
Arseni
Well, if we don't need that, maybe we just have less fewer images. Yes, we'll add the closed-up, but besides the close-up, it's just maybe a little redundant.
24:00
David Drebin
Yeah, delete, yeah, delete that last image, and have only other close-ups.
24:11
Mira
Okay? Okay, so you want one image on top, two in the grid, and the fourth close-up.
24:14
Arseni
Well, there's no greed on mobile, and we're just looking at mobile, that is kind of more important than the website. Yeah.
24:22
David Drebin
I'm looking at the top image moving.
24:29
David Drebin
Then the second, 1, 2, 3 that I like, and then the last one should be a close-up.
24:32
David Drebin
Okay?
24:41
Arseni
Yep.
24:42
David Drebin
I love Below the Surface, I think it looks incredible. I love… that should be the benchmark.
24:43
David Drebin
I really… I also see… I also think that we have to… I like the teardrop. I don't… I don't like the second image.
24:47
Arseni
Yeah.
24:56
David Drebin
I don't like the second image at all, so let's lose the second image. Let's have the first image.
24:57
David Drebin
And then the third image is the second image, get rid of the second image. And then I do, I think that we, I kinda like what it is. I think we should add, a close-up detail of it.
25:03
David Drebin
And then the… and then the images at an art fair.
25:15
David Drebin
And lose that image with that one right there. Lose that one image. Like, I like that there.
25:18
David Drebin
I like it in an art fair setting, I like it there in the art fair setting right there, right?
25:25
Arseni
This one, maybe we zoom in to blue, the black margins on the right and on the left, where.
25:30
David Drebin
Yes.
25:34
Arseni
Yes.
25:35
David Drebin
Yes. I do not like that last image. That last image I do not like. And zoom in, yes.
25:36
David Drebin
Okay? I don't like that image with the girl flashing. Now, photographing yourself,
25:42
David Drebin
I like this, too. I like that image right there. I think it should be… I think the first image should be zoomed in, it's way too far back.
25:48
David Drebin
The first image should be zoom in.
25:57
Arseni
There you go.
25:58
David Drebin
The video, zoomed in, it's way too far back.
25:59
David Drebin
And the second image should just be that image right there.
26:02
David Drebin
Right, that too, that one's good, too, with me in the shot.
26:07
Arseni
I think,
26:10
David Drebin
Not that one, not that one, not that one right there, lose that one right there. Right? Okay.
26:11
Arseni
Okay.
26:16
David Drebin
The Dreamer.
26:16
David Drebin
The dreamer's beautiful. The dreamer's close, and then stopped, and then the sides, and then the last one should be really close up the dreamer. It should always be that detail. I love that detail. Add that detail.
26:17
Arseni
Who did… No, I'm asking because if we get high-res from that person.
26:31
David Drebin
No, they're out of, they're out of business, they're out of business, they're out of business.
26:37
David Drebin
They're out of business. It was on the old website. And then this is the issue here, these lips and love. Use the video I sent you, and only use the red. Do not have all the colors. Don't have all the colors.
26:43
Arseni
All the cadets. Old God.
26:55
David Drebin
Just the red, just the red one. Just the red one. Just the red one.
26:56
Arseni
Just the red one?
27:00
David Drebin
The video, and the red one, and whatever other images, yeah, but lose the other colors.
27:02
David Drebin
Beginning. Oh, so when I go to the beginning, it goes to the beginning of the section, then you gotta click on the three lines. Okay, and I'm on the next one.
27:10
Arseni
You, if you.
27:18
David Drebin
No, that's good, that's good, that's good, that's good.
27:18
Arseni
You're gonna click on your logo to get to the homepage.
27:21
Arseni
Yes, but that's normal, every website has that.
27:23
David Drebin
Good, I like it, I like it. Okay, good, hold on. Neon Collection.
27:27
David Drebin
Drebosnion,
27:31
David Drebin
This is random. The neons are random, though, right?
27:41
Arseni
I think he…
27:45
Arseni
I think so, but, you know, I'm gonna check this.
27:46
David Drebin
The neons need to be random. Neons random. Sculptures are not random. Neons have to be random.
27:49
Arseni
Hmm.
27:55
David Drebin
Love him.
28:00
David Drebin
Love it. You look amazing.
28:01
David Drebin
We need you are full of shit bigger, too small, doesn't look good.
28:08
Arseni
We need to do interior for… Yeah, we gotta make it bigger.
28:11
David Drebin
Though. It looks terrible right now. Just make it bigger. Just take it and make it bigger. It looks really bad. Make it, like, one and a half times the size, okay?
28:15
David Drebin
But I love it, I love it. The site looks… it's great. Hold on. Okay, exhibition and art fairs. Yeah, we just…
28:25
David Drebin
Oh, okay, I see. The thing is, if I… it starts scrolling, but if I touch it stops. I want… I want it to be constantly moving.
28:34
David Drebin
It just stops if I touch it, you see?
28:41
Arseni
Yeah.
28:43
David Drebin
It needs to be moving. It needs to be… it needs to be constantly moving.
28:44
Arseni
Don't you think that someone else will stop to look at a certain image, including you, no? Like…
28:49
David Drebin
Okay, we could do that, we could do that, we could do that, we should get that.
28:56
Arseni
I just want to make sure that it automatically resumes to scroll once you…
28:58
David Drebin
Yes, you know. Yes.
29:04
Arseni
Maybe 10 seconds later, it needs to start moving.
29:05
David Drebin
Yes.
29:08
Arseni
Certainly.
29:10
David Drebin
Okay.
29:14
David Drebin
Okay, great. Okay.
29:15
David Drebin
For the, she says, I love New York, make the I love New York and, do a, heart instead of love, right? It's never, I love New York, it's always I heart New York, never I love New York, okay?
29:21
Arseni
Yes,
29:32
David Drebin
Okay, I'll look at all this shit later, but it looks… this is the most important section. We need to have all the images from,
29:34
David Drebin
Just the best of the best hundred images. So it's like, holy shit, this guy is everywhere, okay?
29:41
Arseni
Okay.
29:49
David Drebin
Okay? I love it, though. I mean, these are great changes, so… Okay, let me go to Books.
29:51
David Drebin
The books are incredible. I mean, it's, should we do available on Amazon, or just say Amazon?
29:57
David Drebin
I don't want it to be available, I don't like available. I don't know what you should say instead.
30:05
Arseni
It's not like the word Amazon will.
30:08
Arseni
Or maybe speak on it.
30:11
Arseni
Move everything.
30:12
Arseni
No.
30:13
Arseni
Oh, see on Amazon.
30:14
Arseni
Not available.
30:16
David Drebin
Yeah, I don't like avail… I don't like on… I don't like to see available on… on…
30:17
Arseni
You know how just…
30:20
David Drebin
How about just a link? How about just a link? Just a link. Just not available on Amazon, just a link. I don't like that. I don't like it.
30:21
Arseni
The link looks ugly link, but it could be Amazon.com linking to the actual book on Amazon.com. Yes.
30:27
David Drebin
Yes.
30:37
Arseni
Okay. Yeah.
30:38
David Drebin
Lose the word available on Amazon. It's very bad. As fast as possible, please.
30:39
David Drebin
Yes.
30:46
David Drebin
Yeah, lose that. This looks incredible, okay?
30:48
David Drebin
I just went to the beginning, look, it stopped me. You see? See?
30:54
David Drebin
It froze. You see, I went to the beginning, look, it just stopped me.
30:57
David Drebin
You see?
31:00
Arseni
No, I don't understand what… what… you're looking at the main.
31:01
Arseni
Many pros, you see.
31:05
Arseni
More like…
31:07
David Drebin
The menu froze.
31:08
Arseni
Truth.
31:09
Arseni
The menu froze.
31:10
David Drebin
Everything's pros, yeah.
31:11
Arseni
Like, you cannot click on the X to close it, or…
31:13
David Drebin
The whole thing… the whole site just froze. Nothing… can't do anything.
31:17
Arseni
And that happened when you clicked on, Back to the beginning.
31:22
David Drebin
Yeah, look, Nike can't do anything right now.
31:25
Arseni
We check. We check.
31:28
Mira
That was in books, right?
31:30
David Drebin
Yeah, I don't know, just from books, I'm… what do I do right now?
31:32
Arseni
Now, you could, of course, refresh the site, if you want, when you…
31:36
David Drebin
Okay, I'll just refreshed the site, so I go back to the books at the bottom.
31:40
David Drebin
And I go to the beginning.
31:44
David Drebin
There we go. I don't know, maybe it was just a little glitch, who knows what it was. Okay, then I go to About.
31:45
David Drebin
It's gotta be faster. It took too long, it took too long. The image of me is bad. Look how red my face is. Pull back on that image of me, and faster.
31:53
Arseni
Faster. Faster. Faster.
32:01
David Drebin
Slideshow and pull back on the image of me. That's a very bad image of me. Look at my face, out of focus. You see that?
32:04
Arseni
Yeah.
32:11
David Drebin
Use the pulled-back image of me. And this one here, like, this one's good. Faster, use the pulled-back image of me. Do not use this image, gotta be much more pulled back. Look, I look like I'm burg… I was on a sailboat all day.
32:12
Arseni
And this one, too.
32:24
David Drebin
Okay?
32:26
Arseni
This is really closer. Which one?
32:27
David Drebin
The next one, too, is too orange. Lose the orangeness. Next image here, right? That's too orange. Lose the orangeness. See? It's too orange.
32:29
David Drebin
Okay?
32:39
Arseni
But that's how…
32:41
David Drebin
Nope.
32:42
Arseni
Send it.
32:43
David Drebin
No, he did it less orange, and Ivan knows, just make it less orange. He's done it before with the interiors, do it here too, okay?
32:43
David Drebin
Okay, hold on…
32:52
Mira
Okay, we know about that to add this, published in 2026.
32:57
David Drebin
Over the pen- okay, hold on a second.
33:05
David Drebin
Oh, change the Dream the World. It's like, Dream the World? What do you mean? That's just so abrupt. Dream the World marks Drebin's 10th book public… like, do what I said in the text, you know what I mean? It doesn't make any sense.
33:15
Arseni
You said…
33:24
Arseni
With quotation marks.
33:26
David Drebin
Yeah, I…
33:28
Mira
I put it in paper, Anthony. I put it in paper.
33:29
Mira
So, the text goes, published.
33:33
David Drebin
You know what, you know what, you know what, you know what, you know what, no. Delete that paragraph altogether. Just delete it. Dream the World Mark Strebbin's 10th book. Just delete that. Delete that.
33:36
33:46
Arseni
But…
33:46
David Drebin
We need to put… Dream the World in the Book section as the top book.
33:47
David Drebin
Right? It's not even in the section. That's gotta be the top book in the section, and there's a link to Amazon, right? And you can describe it. The way they described it. Here's the description from them, here. They sent it to me today. Here, I'll send it to you right now.
33:53
34:11
David Drebin
Cure.
34:11
David Drebin
I'm sending you the text right now, okay?
34:12
David Drebin
Mira…
34:15
Arseni
A…
34:17
David Drebin
Don, I just sent you the text, okay? That has to be the top book in the book section. That book has to be there, like, as soon as possible, with the text.
34:18
Arseni
Okay?
34:28
David Drebin
In books.
34:29
David Drebin
You don't want… yeah, that's good, that's good, okay? And we'll lose that paragraph, okay?
34:31
David Drebin
Seymour?
34:36
David Drebin
What's that? Seymour.
34:38
David Drebin
Galleries.
34:41
David Drebin
Oh, that's the galleries. Oh, that's the galleries.
34:42
David Drebin
I don't think I want that as the image for the galleries. We have to have a better image. I don't want that image cut off like that.
34:47
Arseni
It's a preview, it's a preview image to get to galleries. That's not the only way to get to galleries. Of course, you can use the Hamburger Man in the top right.
34:54
David Drebin
Use a different… let's use a different preview image.
35:03
Arseni
Yeah. Okay.
35:05
David Drebin
The preview image for gallery… see, if you look below, the Drebinology?
35:07
David Drebin
That's not my work. It's a show of my work.
35:13
Arseni
It's funny.
35:16
David Drebin
It's fine, it's fine, it's fine. You see all the people, but it's not my work, right?
35:16
Arseni
We'll curate… no, we'll select a better preview for Grabinology.
35:20
David Drebin
And yeah, and select a better… and select a better… for galleries, that's… that's the image to go back to galleries? No, select an epic image for galleries. A crowd scene. Like, the flirting with… David Drevin flirting with Danger at Gallerie de Belfoy with all that crowd is a much better image. Use that image.
35:26
David Drebin
It says, flirting with danger, my name, the champagne glass in the background, and there's a crowd of people with my… surrounding my name. Not this image. This is not… this isn't, aspirational.
35:46
Arseni
But I think we have one black and white.
36:05
David Drebin
Whatever, even if it's black and white, then use black and white, whatever. Throw the crowd.
36:09
David Drebin
This is not… this is not aspirational. It's all about crowds of people who love Drebin. Not this.
36:15
David Drebin
Drabenology. Use a… use an image from drabbinology that's epic, with what I'm saying.
36:26
David Drebin
Like, one of the… one of the, one of the best… here, let me go to Drebinology, I'll show you, I'll do it right now. I just clicked on Drebinology. No, I just clicked on Drebinology, and it went to the collections. Here, Drebinology. Hold on a second.
36:33
36:55
David Drebin
It could be find your talent, find your passion. You see that image? That should be the image. Or it could be two of them.
36:55
David Drebin
Right?
37:04
David Drebin
It could be… it could be this right here, look at that right there. I remember the relationships more than the art itself. How would you define winning? That will make people want to click to the section. Do you see this right here? I just did a screen grab.
37:10
Arseni
That…
37:22
David Drebin
Be for Drebinology, right there.
37:22
Arseni
These…
37:25
David Drebin
These two images, it should be those… it's like, it shows multiple images. That… that makes you want to go to Drebinology. Wow, what's Drebinology? The thoughts behind the thoughts, interesting.
37:26
Arseni
Hmm.
37:36
David Drebin
You know?
37:36
David Drebin
Look at that one! This would be amazing. Look, this would be amazing, too, right? This would be amazing, too. Do you see that? You have to give people time. Planting, like, that would be… just choose the best two in combination. There's… it's endless.
37:41
Arseni
David.
37:55
Mira
Can you click on that video, the world is, stage?
37:58
David Drebin
Why?
38:04
Mira
Because I think I saw this one picture of the sculpture.
38:06
David Drebin
That's a different sculpture, don't worry about it.
38:11
Arseni
I don't spell that word.
38:13
David Drebin
I don't sell that one.
38:14
David Drebin
I don't sell that, I don't sell that, I don't sell that, yeah.
38:15
Mira
I thought Ideas at the start.
38:17
David Drebin
Yeah, just use a great combination.
38:21
David Drebin
Like, that's a great combination. What was the most dangerous shoot you did? What does winning look like for you?
38:25
David Drebin
You know?
38:30
David Drebin
You know, just…
38:33
Mira
Okay, what's the most dangerous shoot you, took in?
38:36
David Drebin
No, I just… they're just… I don't like… like, the two that I just sent… the two that I just showed you could be one of those two, okay?
38:40
David Drebin
It could be those two.
38:46
Arseni
Okay.
38:50
David Drebin
Look, I even like this one here. Look at that there. You see that there? That's a good combination, too. Something to entice people to learn more about David Drebin's thought process, right?
38:51
David Drebin
Here.
39:04
David Drebin
It could be… it could be one of these three.
39:05
David Drebin
Putting it… excuse me, I'm putting it in the,
39:09
David Drebin
In the telegram, just… it could be one of these three.
39:13
David Drebin
Okay?
39:16
David Drebin
You there?
39:17
Arseni
Yeah.
39:20
David Drebin
There. Okay. So… hold on…
39:20
David Drebin
So we go back to the beginning…
39:28
David Drebin
Okay, news.
39:33
David Drebin
News is amazing.
39:38
David Drebin
Okay.
39:40
Arseni
Press.
39:41
David Drebin
The press is amazing. Let's lose that… let's lose that, is this updated press?
39:43
Arseni
Yes.
39:52
David Drebin
It's great. It makes you click on everything. It's just, the press is…
39:54
David Drebin
It's just endless and amazing, I love it. Lose the amateur photography, okay?
39:57
David Drebin
Special project.
40:03
Arseni
I don't believe it is the title of the.
40:04
David Drebin
No, never! No. Special projects, excellent, looks great.
40:07
Mira
So, okay, now special project.
40:13
David Drebin
Good. In conversation, love it, looks amazing. No logos, fantastic.
40:16
David Drebin
Okay?
40:21
David Drebin
Travenology.
40:23
David Drebin
Amazing, I love it.
40:25
David Drebin
And connect.
40:28
David Drebin
Okay, let's go to galleries. Where are the galleries top?
40:35
Arseni
Can't thirst.
40:39
David Drebin
Froze again.
40:41
David Drebin
It froze again.
40:42
Arseni
Okay, we'll have the tester.
40:45
Arseni
Expensive.
40:47
Arseni
Tested, because we never experienced this, but we'll…
40:47
David Drebin
It just froze again, look, it froze again, so… I'll go back to the website again. Can't freeze, okay? So… let's go to Connect.
40:50
David Drebin
Then we'll go to the beginning.
41:00
David Drebin
Here, galleries.
41:02
David Drebin
I like the VR, by the way, for this. I think this works.
41:07
David Drebin
You know what I mean? I think this VR works, it looks okay. North America. Okay, we gotta change the order. We gotta change the order here, okay?
41:12
David Drebin
It cannot be… it cannot start with Onesimo. It's gotta start with Contessa. It's gotta start with Contessa.
41:23
David Drebin
After Contessa, It can be,
41:33
David Drebin
Fuck, I hate all these galleries. It's gotta start with Contessa, and then it could be Onesimo.
41:39
David Drebin
And then it could be Carousel, then it could be Aspen, then it could be Hilton, and then it could be, Art Angels at the end.
41:45
David Drebin
Yeah.
41:55
David Drebin
And shrimper's good, I like Trimper too, it's fine. Yep.
41:56
David Drebin
Okay? We need to add another gallery. Camel work in Europe, Clarendon, hold on a second… Listen.
42:00
David Drebin
Clarendon is not…
42:11
David Drebin
It… London is not Europe. You gotta do UK. So you gotta do Europe. I would… after… after, America, I would do UK.
42:13
David Drebin
And UK should be Clarendon in iconic images, and the others should be Europe.
42:22
David Drebin
And then, Brazil?
42:27
David Drebin
Brazil has to be Thiago.
42:30
David Drebin
Brazil, hold on one second, because I have a gallery in Brazil that's very good.
42:34
David Drebin
Okay… What is name of your gallery?
42:39
David Drebin
To… put… on my website.
42:47
Arseni
Diego Prada? Yes.
42:53
David Drebin
Yeah, right there.
42:56
David Drebin
Yes.
42:58
Mira
Thiego Pratt… Pratto Roma Gallabra.
42:59
David Drebin
So, there we go. We have to change that, it's very important.
43:05
David Drebin
Okay?
43:09
David Drebin
Clarendon's very important, so I would start off with,
43:11
43:38
David Drebin
Yeah, UK. Our… is Clarendon and, Iconic Images, even though I'm not really working with Iconic Images right now, but it's fine for now, it's fine for now.
43:17
David Drebin
We gotta change the… we gotta change the, email address for Hannah Brakewell at demontfort.uk. No, it's gotta be this. This is the address, okay, to send it to.
43:26
David Drebin
This here.
43:42
David Drebin
Copy. Mira, I just sent it to you in WhatsApp, okay?
43:46
Arseni
In WhatsApp.
43:51
David Drebin
This is the… this is the name of the person, and that's the email address, okay?
43:53
David Drebin
Okay, here's Thiago.
43:57
Arseni
There is.
44:00
David Drebin
There it is.
44:01
Arseni
Gallery.
44:01
David Drebin
It's there, this, and this, see that there?
44:02
Arseni
Are there?
44:05
David Drebin
There?
44:06
Arseni
Yeah.
44:06
David Drebin
Brazil. Oh, Brazil, do you see it? Do you see it?
44:07
Arseni
Sao Paulo, right?
44:10
David Drebin
Yes, but you see his logo, too? You see it? Here, I'll do a screen grab for you. Hold on.
44:12
David Drebin
Okay.
44:20
Arseni
Chroma Gallery is just, fun, okay?
44:22
David Drebin
There, okay? Okay, so that, yeah, we gotta change that. These are easy fixes. These are easy fixes, so… This could all be done today, right?
44:26
Arseni
And we.
44:36
Arseni
Oh, that's.
44:37
Arseni
About content could be done today.
44:37
David Drebin
Costs.
44:39
Arseni
Whatever functionality we, you know, spoke about, like, putting that animated GIF when you're on low battery, like, that probably could take a day.
44:40
David Drebin
Okay, no problem. Look here, look, ready?
44:51
David Drebin
Yeah, remember? See, Palm Beach, comma, Florida, everything I put in Telegram, right? Los Angeles, comma, California. Atlanta, comma, Georgia. Aspen, comma, Colorado, okay? You gotta add that, you gotta add the California. Stockholm's good, Vienna's good, Paris is good, Berlin's good.
44:53
David Drebin
London's good. I want to put UK before Europe. Very important that UK's at the very top.
45:11
Arseni
Oh.
45:19
David Drebin
Okay.
45:24
Arseni
Yeah.
45:25
David Drebin
You see how good that looks? Exhibition and art fairs? Do you see how good that… that image looks?
45:26
Arseni
Yeah.
45:31
David Drebin
Right? Even though, you know…
45:32
David Drebin
Even though I don't work with GalleryW4 anymore, it doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter, because that.
45:34
Arseni
This looks…
45:39
David Drebin
So good.
45:40
David Drebin
You know what I mean? The image is so good. Exhibition and art fairs should all come up random.
45:41
David Drebin
Listen. Exhibition art fairs should come up random. This image right here is from… these images are from 8 years ago. Lose the Oliver Cole image, I can't stand that guy. Okay, here. These are all old images. Use the latest images. They're the best images. From my Gallery de Belfoy show.
45:46
David Drebin
Flirting with Danger, Art Miami, and Art Palm Beach. And Hilton Contemporary. Those were the best in my camera work shows. Very little of me with the hats on. Lose this image right here. See that image right there? Lose that image right there. I don't work with him anymore, I don't like that fucking guy. Lose that image, okay?
46:05
David Drebin
Here. I just sent it to you in WhatsApp.
46:25
David Drebin
Okay? Lose that image right there, I just sent it to you.
46:29
David Drebin
Alright And then add the best images, you know? Pulled back images.
46:32
David Drebin
Right? Lose this image of me. Lose that image of me there. This is… I don't like it, stupid. I look… I look… I look… look, see that image right there?
46:39
David Drebin
See that there?
46:47
David Drebin
This year?
46:49
46:59
David Drebin
Lose that image of me. It's just old, and it's just… it's not the new version of me, you know what I mean?
46:50
Mira
But didn't you just say that you want, like, wow, this guy had exhibitions everywhere.
46:56
David Drebin
Yeah, but yeah, but the images are tiny there. It doesn't look good there. It doesn't look… there's… I have so many amazing artworks. Like, look at my screen right now. That looks amazing.
47:03
David Drebin
Right? Now, I only want the best ones, okay? If you look at my screen right now, okay, look at my.
47:14
Arseni
You gotta look.
47:20
David Drebin
Ready? Okay. That looks great right there.
47:21
David Drebin
Crowds. Crowds.
47:25
Mira
Okay, do you want this image to be as a thumbnail on the scene before?
47:26
David Drebin
No, lose that right there. Lose those two. That looks great, that looks great, that looks great. Good, great. This image right here doesn't look good. See that image right there? There's no one there.
47:32
David Drebin
It's just not epic enough. That… see…
47:44
David Drebin
You see how it keeps on going to the beginning when I touch it?
47:50
David Drebin
I touch an image, I… see how it goes back to the beginning? Are you looking at my screen right now?
47:53
Arseni
I… yeah.
47:59
David Drebin
I don't like that. I'm touching it's… it's glitchy. I'm zooming in, it's going back to the beginning. I don't want that. See, I'm zooming in, and it just… it just goes to the beginning. Stop doing that.
48:01
Mira
But this is the thing I talked to even. He said that, you know, the slide, has option, to move it with your finger.
48:12
David Drebin
No, it can't…
48:23
David Drebin
It's confusing the people. Make it one or the other, because it keeps on going back to the beginning, and it will frustrate people. It will frustrate people.
48:25
Mira
Okay, do you want that people slide, or do you want that people increase with their fingers the particular.
48:34
Arseni
Like it.
48:40
David Drebin
Slide. Fuck increasing with their fingers, because if you increase with your fingers, it goes back to the beginning, and it's making me hate the website. Do not… no sliding… no be… no…
48:41
David Drebin
Not… no ability to… to… I don't want to… if I scroll with my fingers, it goes back to the beginning. Do you see what… do you see what my phone is doing right now?
48:52
Arseni
Yeah.
48:59
David Drebin
It's bad.
49:00
Arseni
No, dude.
49:01
Arseni
I see the same thing.
49:01
Mira
Arseni, I talked to Ivan. Two actions can't be done at the same time in,
49:04
Arseni
Yup.
49:10
Mira
Slide. You can't increase, and you can't slide. We have to select which one… Slide.
49:11
David Drebin
Don't increase. No increasing. Because it's all about mystery. Don't let people increase. Don't let people increase. And, yeah, because look what's happening. You see what's happening? It's fucking up the whole section. This is the most important section.
49:17
David Drebin
Nobody cares about my work, they care about who's shown my work.
49:31
Arseni
-
49:35
Mira
But that's why zooming is not allowed. That's why when you want to zoom in the picture, it puts you back on the beginning of the slide.
49:42
David Drebin
I don't want that. It fucks up… it looks like there's a problem with the website.
49:51
Arseni
Yeah, we have a deficiency, we'll solve it.
49:54
David Drebin
Thank you. Arseni, can you just pick the best 100 images? Like, see that image right there? Take a screen grab. Like.
49:57
David Drebin
No, lose that image.
50:05
David Drebin
Have it with all the people. Have it with the people. That's not special. Like, we're only as good as the weakest image.
50:07
David Drebin
We're only as good as the weakest image.
50:14
David Drebin
You know? Like, this hat image? That's good. That's good. That's good from years ago, right? That's good. But that's good. Just… just… you see what's happening right now? It's just…
50:17
David Drebin
Just choose a hundred unbelievable images. It will take 5 minutes from everything I've done. And they all have to be great. And I would also do it, big, small, big, small, big, small. This needs to be curated. This section is extremely important.
50:30
Arseni
No, then we're gonna have a random order, then. If it's big, small, big, small.
50:47
David Drebin
No, don't do random order. Don't do random order. Do not do random order with this. It's fine. Don't do random order. There's no need to do random order in exhibitions and art fairs. Do not do that.
50:51
David Drebin
Just go big, small, big, small, big, small. So then they could scroll all the way through, with the most current, and then going backwards. So it should be Art Palm Beach, Art Miami, right? And then when they go backwards, they'll see how I used to wear hats, but I don't wear hats anymore.
51:02
David Drebin
Right? Show the new version of me all the way back to the old version. Like, looking at me as a 56-year-old, all the way back to being a 1-year-old. That's what this is.
51:19
Arseni
Like Benjamin Button. Yes!
51:29
David Drebin
Okay? So, I think we understand this. I really gotta get this going. This is top priority for me. I think we're all good with the book. She's gonna send me new proofs, and I think we're pretty much good, right? Are we good? You make all these changes?
51:33
Arseni
Yeah.
51:48
David Drebin
Could you tell me how many people have seen the website? I have not promoted it yet on my Instagram, I'm not gonna do it yet, but when it's done, as close to my liking as possible, then… then I'm gonna do… I'll do the video as the Instagram post. Not like I have a following at all, so…
51:49
David Drebin
Let me go back to the beginning here.
52:07
Mira
But, do you… did anybody call you about Nova Website? No? No.
52:12
Arseni
No.
52:18
David Drebin
No?
52:20
David Drebin
Okay, so I'm just scrolling up and down right now, you see what I'm doing right now? Okay.
52:21
David Drebin
Yeah.
52:27
David Drebin
It's great.
52:28
David Drebin
Let me see the links, does it work?
52:30
David Drebin
Open Instagram, okay?
52:34
David Drebin
LinkedIn.
52:36
David Drebin
Nope.
52:40
David Drebin
How do I go back? How do we go? LinkedIn.
52:44
David Drebin
Okay.
52:49
David Drebin
Cancel.
52:49
David Drebin
No, she says join LinkedIn, or sign in, okay, forget that, and TikTok.
52:51
Arseni
You don't have an app on your phone?
52:57
David Drebin
Yes, I do.
53:00
Arseni
Downloaded app.
53:02
David Drebin
Yes. Yes.
53:04
Arseni
So white is not…
53:07
David Drebin
Diamonds.
53:10
David Drebin
It's great.
53:11
David Drebin
Okay.
53:14
Audio
That's enough!
53:16
David Drebin
Okay?
53:18
David Drebin
Okay? I don't know why, it just goes… Here, there we go.
53:20
David Drebin
Continue… I don't know why it says that, view derivative's profile.
53:25
Arseni
You are logged out.
53:28
David Drebin
No, there we go, there we go.
53:29
David Drebin
Who knows? Sign in, whatever it is, doesn't matter. So I just want to get this done, so… Okay, so I think it's good. Can you email… can you let me know when I can look at the site with all the… with all the changes, please?
53:32
Arseni
We'll probably, confirm a few things before we apply. Yeah.
53:46
David Drebin
Why? We just went through everything right now. I don't want to go through it all again.
53:50
Arseni
Yeah, we don't have to go absolutely over everything again, but there might be a few things.
53:55
Mira
And I know that we will go through images in exhibitions through again, because I'm quite sure that David will say.
54:01
David Drebin
No, I want RC to pick…
54:08
Arseni
That's.
54:10
David Drebin
No. I want big, small, big, small, with the most recent, where I look the best. You know? With me with my double-breasted blazer, hugging the girl, with me hiding behind the neon, hiding behind the photograph, those are great images of me, with me standing there. This looks dated. I need 100 images from…
54:10
David Drebin
From 2026 going back 20 years.
54:28
Arseni
Is extremely…
54:32
David Drebin
Extremely important, and it should not take very long. Big, small, big, small, big, small, because that's what's gonna get galleries to show me at art fairs. It looks like I'm very successful. That's what we need.
54:33
Arseni
We're not gonna ignore you in the hat, because your hat was part of your, like.
54:46
David Drebin
Yes, put me in the hat from 10 years ago, but don't put me in the hat to start. You know? The first image I see is Oliver Cole from 10 years ago. Use the best and most current. We have great images from Art Palm Beach, Art Miami, from Hilton Contemporary, right?
54:50
David Drebin
From… from Flirting with Danger, GDB, you know? Just the best. Don't worry about the variety of shows, just look at the best hundred images of me, where I look the best, because I trans… I… I totally…
55:06
David Drebin
Re… like, I totally reconstructed my look physically. So I want to show that.
55:20
David Drebin
Alright?
55:29
Arseni
Yup.
55:30
David Drebin
That's very important. Right now, it doesn't look right. It's just, I can't promote the site right now. It's just, like, it's a pilot. But we're so close, so I just need this done, okay?
55:32
Arseni
Yeah.
55:42
David Drebin
Are we done with the book, by the way? Anything else? I'm getting those proofs again, I guess, right?
55:43
Arseni
Well, there's nothing else we can do with the book, so we did our part.
55:49
David Drebin
Okay. I'm just waiting for… I'm waiting for the cover… a cover as well, so these are… these are… these are two top priorities.
55:55
Mira
Okay, well, I'm gonna ask about Nadine. So, what Nadine, needs, what can we.
56:01
David Drebin
Ask her. Whatever she needs, give it to her, because she's promoting the book, so whatever images she needs, she can get anything she wants. Nadine's amazing.
56:07
Mira
Because, you said Senka all pictures, it's 12GB, and that, it's.
56:15
David Drebin
No, just send her high enough, like, send her a Dropbox folder with… with not high-res printing for gas.
56:20
Arseni
Exactly.
56:29
David Drebin
Books.
56:30
Mira
Wanted, with exactly what we wanted, to send her low res, and tell her, okay, pick, tell us which one you want, and we will send you high-res.
56:31
David Drebin
Exactly. Just communicate with her. Beautiful. Okay, great. We'll talk to you later.
56:43
Arseni
Okay.
56:48
Mira
Arsi, do you have anything else to ask?
56:48
Arseni
No, I don't have anything else. I'm not alone.
56:51
Arseni
Okay, yeah.
56:54
David Drebin
I just want to get this done, I want to fix these glitches, get it done, because I really love the site, so I love it, I just want to get it done, so thank you so much. Goodbye.
56:56
Arseni
Yay.
57:03