September 07, 2026 · 44 minutes
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- We'll just open the last book, we'll
- Let's go to right now, just go
- Let's just put it there to start
- Let's put this horse image second
- Let's remove, let's remove it from there
- Let's go… let's just put those closer
- We'll see how that transition goes
- Let's run with the hand, or this…
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- We'll just open the last book, we'll see if some of this needs to be updated now.
- Let's go to right now, just go to… just go to Perplexity, or… 2025-26, hold up a second.
- Let's just put it there to start.
- Let's put this horse image second.
- Let's remove, let's remove it from there.
- Let's go… let's just put those closer together.
- We'll see how that transition goes.
- Let's run with the hand, or this….
- We'll try it, we can ask Louisa.
- We'll have to find that 3D guy who does it.
- We'll have a vertical intro, which we don't have yet.
- Let's go another call.
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Arseni
First of all, I love the Spradsman, and you've done a great job. I mean, this is a great book. I do… I do want to do a book called Bad Decisions. I really do. Okay, I'm gonna go… I'm gonna go on this, I'm gonna go on Zoom right now. Bye.
0:16
Arseni
Are you still here?
0:30
Arseni
No, before I forget, like, you got hundreds of, responses from LinkedIn posts. Shouldn't Michelle go through those as well? Because you, I don't know if you paid for this, it was a couple of months ago? Yeah, no, they're gonna… they're gonna email her on that too, yes. Yeah, okay, cool.
0:32
Arseni
I'm doing three. I'm doing business of fashion, I'm doing Instagram, and I'm doing LinkedIn, all tomorrow. All tomorrow. It's gonna be an actual… this is an actual post on my…
0:50
Arseni
On my Instagram. It's gonna be an actual post, which I think is great, you know? Okay. You may not love the design, but it's good enough for me.
1:02
Arseni
Okay, cool, I'll see you in Zoom. Do you agree? Like, you may not love the design, but I think it's good enough. I think it's good enough. I haven't seen the design yet, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go on all day. I sent it to you, I sent it to you. I just saw the text, hold on, I just see…
1:13
Arseni
Oh, that! Yes. I thought it was the template, from…
1:28
Arseni
From who? From House of… sorry, a business of fashion, I thought it was their temple. Doesn't matter, it's good enough, yeah, it's good enough. Probably, yeah. I'll go to the Zoom right now. Okay.
1:35
Arseni
Esther, your microphone is muted.
2:02
Arseni
Muted, still count here.
2:06
David Drebin
Here we go.
2:09
David Drebin
Okay.
2:10
Arseni
Okay, so I'm sharing my screen. Here's… here's the book. I didn't explain this to you, this could be maybe in foil, golden foil on the left side, when you open the book. I'm not sure.
2:13
David Drebin
It shouldn't be black, I think it should be… I think it should be gold foil. Gold foil.
2:29
Arseni
Yeah, so… Yeah.
2:33
David Drebin
There it is, there it is, there it is.
2:37
2:38Arseni
Yeah, I'm just gonna… Copy this, like this…
2:39
David Drebin
I love the next page. The heel is just so good. It's so good. It's fucking brilliant.
2:44
Arseni
Yeah, we just increased… no, we just did it with this Volfoam Gidot, it's larger, but…
2:51
David Drebin
Yeah.
2:58
Arseni
Spend time just to make the heels sexier. It should be, yeah, that D-Dot font, not this Helvetica. Yeah, I'm just gonna do a printout tomorrow, probably.
2:58
Arseni
So, the map, Ivan is rebuilding it, because we.
3:10
David Drebin
I mean, it's just so good. It's so good to have these four spreads. It's like, the heels, the dream, the world, the map, it's just fucking great. The other stuff goes, what is that? That's in the back of the book, not the front of the book.
3:14
Arseni
The press… yeah.
3:28
David Drebin
No, that's not going in the book, none of that's going in the book.
3:31
Arseni
No, you want… you said at one point, you want a page with selected press.
3:34
David Drebin
No, I want the descriptions of what they said about me, like in the last book.
3:41
David Drebin
Not… not the… yeah, not that, I don't want that. No, I want… I want what they say about me, yeah. Remember in the, like.
3:48
Arseni
Yeah, I remember. Yeah, let's do that. Like, what they said about you should…
3:54
Arseni
Maybe we put logos of those magazines,
4:00
David Drebin
Yeah, we could do that, we could do that.
4:04
Arseni
Actually, they're not all magazines, there were some art critics there, right?
4:05
David Drebin
I don't… I don't even remember. Hold on a second, let me look right now.
4:10
Arseni
We'll just open the last book, we'll see if some of this needs to be updated now, but I… maybe I misunderstood you. When you were talking about press, selected press, it's… it's not the press, it's what they said about you.
4:15
David Drebin
Okay.
4:28
David Drebin
Fuck, I don't have that many books here, crazy, I'm running out of books here in my place. Hold on a second…
4:31
David Drebin
Fiber tanger, okay, I've got 6 of these here, so 3, 6. Okay, yeah.
4:38
David Drebin
I mean, we could have their logos, we could, but I don't know, we need to. Let me see here, hold on.
4:44
David Drebin
We could… I kind of like the way it looks on these two black pages, so you remember, right? Do you remember how it looks, or not?
4:53
Arseni
No, I don't remember the black pages.
4:59
David Drebin
Hold on to send you a picture. Hold on.
5:02
David Drebin
I don't think I wanted to make it the same.
5:11
David Drebin
But I want to have different, things that they say about me.
5:13
5:15Arseni
You know? Yeah.
5:18
David Drebin
Okay, there we go.
5:27
David Drebin
You see?
5:29
Arseni
Yeah. Okay, so after the last.
5:30
David Drebin
Well, it kind of got blurry, but I think you understand the idea.
5:33
Arseni
I understand. Did someone say something new after that? It was a year and a half ago when we did the last book.
5:36
David Drebin
Of course, I've had lots of… I've had lots of articles since then about that book. Lots.
5:43
Arseni
Yes.
5:48
Arseni
And are they impressed, or.
5:50
David Drebin
Yeah, they're impressed, they're impressed.
5:52
Arseni
Okay, then.
5:53
David Drebin
Yeah. Or go to…
5:54
Arseni
Go.
5:55
David Drebin
Or go to ChatGPT.
5:56
Arseni
Well, if you think it's all in ChatGPT or Perplexity, yeah, well, we can find it like this.
5:58
David Drebin
Yeah. Have said about… David Drebin.
6:05
David Drebin
In past… 2 years.
6:10
David Drebin
Right?
6:14
David Drebin
Let's go to right now, just go to… just go to Perplexity, or… 2025-26, hold up a second.
6:16
Arseni
Just not sure Perplexity catches everything.
6:23
David Drebin
Swagger, sleek.
6:26
David Drebin
Master visual storytelling, Photo Hits, Dare to Dream.
6:33
David Drebin
Yeah, this is great.
6:47
David Drebin
Yes. Give me… Top 10 Best Quotes?
6:50
David Drebin
And this is easy to find. This is easy to find. You know what I mean? This is easy.
6:57
David Drebin
Fuck. What do we do before AI? It's crazy.
7:02
Arseni
It is. Yeah. Look!
7:05
David Drebin
Fuse Magazine, 2025. Few artists command the intersection of high glamour and emotional depth like David Drabbin.
7:08
David Drebin
Maxim.
7:16
David Drebin
Perhaps Draven's greatest talent is producing works that are lushly cinematic, but that don't seem overly staged or photoshopped.
7:18
David Drebin
Drabbit is considered one of the most renowned contemporary photographic artists.
7:26
David Drebin
Photoscala. He has earned a reputation as a master of emotions.
7:31
David Drebin
Fuse Magazine. Photographs that feel less like moments captured, more like stills from a dream you have to remember.
7:38
David Drebin
Very good.
7:47
Arseni
Yeah.
7:48
David Drebin
National Geographic Traveler. Wow.
7:51
7:52David Drebin
David Drebin's elaborately staged New York photos can fetch five-figure sums.
7:56
David Drebin
I don't want to do that, but I've never seen that before. I've never seen this,
8:02
David Drebin
I've never seen that. Wow, I like that.
8:07
Arseni
Hmm.
8:10
Arseni
Hold on a second.
8:10
David Drebin
Just go, you know, you can just see all this, right? Hold on one second.
8:11
Arseni
I, aye.
8:16
Arseni
I'm gonna check, I'm gonna do one… one more check on my end, just to see…
8:17
Arseni
What else I can find?
8:23
David Drebin
Yeah, exactly, this is easy. Geographic.
8:24
David Drebin
Sleek is really good, too, says what? Hold on.
8:28
David Drebin
I never… I never even saw this article. It says, the bigger apple up close, David Drebins.
8:40
David Drebin
The Big Apple, up close, David Drebin's elaborately staged New York photos. Okay, yeah.
8:46
David Drebin
What else did it say?
8:54
David Drebin
You got the idea, you got the idea.
9:38
Arseni
Yeah.
9:40
Arseni
So, Ivan is redoing the map, so it becomes probably more high-res.
9:43
Arseni
But it's kind of a little bit, like, the style that you liked is a little bit, like, not, like, the style of the book, do you not think? It's just…
9:50
David Drebin
I think you should do it in the style that you think is best. I gave you the idea, yours is a little bit too technical, it should be a hybrid of both, you know what I mean?
10:00
Arseni
Yeah.
10:08
David Drebin
Yes, it should be a hybrid of both. Yeah, I'm gonna leave it to you. This is the design element from you. So, in terms of the first image of the book, I wonder if we should take… can I see the… can I see the whole…
10:09
David Drebin
If you go through the whole…
10:23
Arseni
Yeah, I can make it larger. Is it large enough, or…
10:25
10:29David Drebin
It's large enough, it's large enough, it's large enough.
10:29
Arseni
Okay.
10:31
David Drebin
A part of me wants to start With the second image.
10:34
Arseni
This one.
10:42
Arseni
Yeah.
10:43
David Drebin
Or, no, go down, I'll show you which one I think I want to start with.
10:44
David Drebin
Hold on. Hold on. You wanna go back up, go back up, go back up?
10:50
Arseni
I'm gonna zoom out a little bit.
10:55
David Drebin
Sorry, hold on, let me see, let me see here. That's good, hold on, let me see here.
10:58
David Drebin
Okay, lower? Lower.
11:05
David Drebin
Hold on.
11:09
David Drebin
Okay, keep going, lower.
11:13
David Drebin
Hold on.
11:17
David Drebin
Okay, go ahead, Laura.
11:25
David Drebin
Wait, th-that- you gotta change the,
11:47
David Drebin
Black to white? No, the layout of the girl… of the girl on the,
11:49
David Drebin
On the log, it's too much white space, you gotta make… that's too much white. You know what I mean?
11:54
David Drebin
Don't love that.
11:59
Arseni
Might not be the latest one, but I'll take a note.
12:00
David Drebin
Yeah, I don't think that's the latest one, I don't think so. I gotta see the latest one, it will keep going.
12:02
David Drebin
Yeah, it's just too… it's too much border, too much
12:12
David Drebin
Yeah, I don't think it's the latest one either.
12:15
Arseni
No, the latest one is in a PDF. If that's important, I'll find the PDF.
12:18
David Drebin
Okay, keep going.
12:22
David Drebin
Keep going up.
12:28
David Drebin
It's crazy. We missed a fucking image that I love. I can't believe it. We missed an image.
12:40
David Drebin
We knew we missed an image! Oh my god.
12:46
David Drebin
The girl with the balloons in Rome. How do we miss that?
12:50
Arseni
Hmm.
12:55
Arseni
They do not have 3 images with the balloons.
12:56
David Drebin
No, we missed this image, I knew and felt it.
12:59
Arseni
Bro, did you send me? Did you send it to…
13:05
David Drebin
I did. Shit happens, yeah. Oh, I did. Here, I'll show it to you right now. I knew it, I was like, wait a second, there's something missing here.
13:07
David Drebin
Okay.
13:20
David Drebin
Even you're not perfect.
13:22
David Drebin
Hold on.
13:34
David Drebin
I'm finding it for you.
13:37
David Drebin
I knew it, I was like, there's something missing here, I don't know what it is, but I felt it.
13:39
David Drebin
You're gonna go, oh my god, I can't believe you missed this.
13:51
David Drebin
And I love the image, and I think this should be the first image of the book, too.
13:54
Arseni
Hmm,
14:00
Arseni
Now, what was the name of that?
14:02
David Drebin
I'm finding it right now, I'm finding it right now.
14:04
David Drebin
There it is.
14:15
David Drebin
Dreamy secrets.
14:18
14:34David Drebin
This should be the first image of the book.
14:20
14:41Arseni
Yeah, or this image. We had it, we had it. What happened? Like, yeah, we designed with this.
14:26
David Drebin
I never… I never did anything. I never said anything about this.
14:34
Arseni
No, it's this one. This one, here it is. It's in the book.
14:39
David Drebin
Oh, it is in the book! Sorry. Okay, sorry. Where is it? Where is it? Let me see it. Hold on, where is it?
14:43
Arseni
But,
14:49
David Drebin
Yeah, I think that should go…
14:52
David Drebin
I don't know, I don't know why, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, maybe leave it where it is. Should it be the first image in the book?
15:00
Arseni
Why don't I copy, and we'll…
15:09
David Drebin
Yeah.
15:11
David Drebin
I think that the horse image is great, but I think it stops you too quickly. It kind of freezes, like, wow, I don't know.
15:12
David Drebin
I think that's…
15:18
Arseni
Kind of… good, but it… Stops you. I like that strong entrance.
15:20
David Drebin
That's what all the girls said, too.
15:28
15:43Arseni
So…
15:33
David Drebin
What do you think?
15:33
Arseni
I like both of them, but the horse is more memorable, but you might want to put that memorable image somewhere else.
15:37
David Drebin
Let me see… can we just put it there? Let's just put it there to start.
15:45
David Drebin
Let's put this horse image second.
16:00
David Drebin
It's kind of dramatic, it's like… Wow, you know?
16:39
David Drebin
I think the first…
16:43
Arseni
Repeating red elements from the balloons to her dress, diagonals… yeah, it's… it's good.
16:44
David Drebin
I don't know, I kind of like that as the first image. Dreaming the world. It's like she's letting go, you know what I mean? I think it's a better opener. I think it's a better opener.
16:51
Arseni
The less aggressive.
17:02
David Drebin
He's a little bit less aggressive, yeah.
17:05
Arseni
Yeah.
17:07
David Drebin
And then you see the other ones, and then the balloons tie back again. You know, more balloons again, which I like. And then the balloons come back again, and then she's underwater, right? There's underwater.
17:09
Arseni
And…
17:21
David Drebin
You know, keep going, dreamy, fantasy, dreamy, Mediterranean, I love it, I love it, I love it, then there's that there, and the legs there, and then I love the real spread, the real spread's amazing, then back to the balloons, jumping, letting go. It ties you back to the beginning of the book.
17:22
David Drebin
Right? That she's hanging on, then there's the real shot, yeah, I like that, I like this, I like that, I like this, I like that. Then there's the horse.
17:40
David Drebin
Okay, which ties you back to the horse, so there's that.
17:49
18:20David Drebin
Then there's this, there's that, yep, I like it, I like it, I like it, I like it, running, yep, okay. Gotta fix that spread, okay, good. I like those two spreads. Okay, let's remove, let's remove it from there. Let's get rid of it there, from there, let's lose it there.
17:52
David Drebin
Let's go… let's just put those closer together.
18:10
David Drebin
The… those spreads that we just changed, let's just put them closer together.
18:13
David Drebin
Okay, let's see.
18:21
David Drebin
Okay, go back, other way, go back other way, otherwise we'll see how that transition goes.
18:29
David Drebin
I don't mind it, I don't mind it. I think, in a way, it ties the red in again, you know?
18:37
Arseni
-
18:44
David Drebin
Like, the country to the city, you know? I kind of… I don't… I like it. I like that transition.
18:45
Arseni
Yeah.
18:51
Arseni
Legacy.
18:52
David Drebin
Yeah, okay.
18:56
David Drebin
I love the lip shot, the New York shot.
18:57
David Drebin
Yeah, the other pair of shot right there. Do you like that shot right there?
19:01
Arseni
Let's run with the hand, or this…
19:05
David Drebin
No, that one.
19:07
David Drebin
That one.
19:09
Arseni
I like it's dreamy, I like the texture, I like the colors, and… yeah, I… I like it.
19:14
David Drebin
I like it too.
19:22
Arseni
It kind of belongs to this book, Dream the World. That's exactly what she's doing, in a glamorous city.
19:23
David Drebin
Yeah, I agree. Okay, good, yeah, okay, good.
19:29
Arseni
So Mark, that's…
19:43
David Drebin
Yeah, I think it's… I love it. I think it's great. I love the picture of me at the end, it's fucking great. It's so good. It's so good. It just shows lifestyle the rich and famous, does it not?
19:52
Arseni
Yeah.
20:02
David Drebin
And then the books, we need to have all the books. There's only 8 there, we need 2 more, so yeah.
20:05
Arseni
Do you think it's too much of the rock and glass here? Do you want to zoom in a little bit?
20:09
David Drebin
If you think so, if you think so, if you think so.
20:17
Arseni
Okay, I'll, I'll do it after the call, maybe.
20:19
David Drebin
Yeah, if, yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe.
20:23
David Drebin
Okay.
20:27
David Drebin
Let's see the beginning, let's see the beginning again? Let's see the beginning.
20:28
20:57Arseni
Let me just take the note, hello.
20:31
David Drebin
I love this as the opening image of the book.
20:37
David Drebin
I never sold it, but I think it's amazing.
20:40
Arseni
Okay, did you wanna see the lease spreads?
21:08
David Drebin
I think it's great, I think I'm ready, I'm ready. I think it's great.
21:16
Arseni
Okay, the map is the more difficult thing.
21:20
David Drebin
The map?
21:23
Arseni
Don't worry.
21:24
David Drebin
I love it. I love it. I think it's… I think it's amazing. I like that black and white page a lot, and I like starting off with the girl with the balloons. Let's see the balloons again? The heel, the balloons, it's fucking beautiful, man. It's absolutely… this book is absolutely spectacular.
21:25
Arseni
Yeah.
21:39
David Drebin
It's amazing.
21:40
Arseni
Riah?
21:41
David Drebin
Yeah.
21:44
David Drebin
Okay.
21:45
Arseni
Do you want to make that balloon in gold? Just this balloon, if Luisa allows us, because it's about using golden ink here?
21:47
David Drebin
Yes.
21:59
Arseni
Okay, we'll, we'll try it.
22:00
David Drebin
Ore, or red.
22:02
Arseni
That's a little too obvious, maybe red. I already like it, I like it being monochromatic, but if we use the golden foil on the other side, it could counterbalance the gold. Anyway, we'll try it, we can ask Louisa.
22:05
David Drebin
Yeah, if we do it, we do it, or we can do a color, whatever, like, yeah, but I love it, I think it's amazing. The books… I love that it's big, dream the world, then the heel, then small, and then the Dream the World Plain, it's like Japanese style, you know, and then…
22:22
David Drebin
The map. It's just… it's amazing. Will it be obvious that's where I photographed? Like, when you see all those names on the map? It'll be obvious that's where I photographed, right? Yes.
22:34
Arseni
Of course, yeah.
22:43
Arseni
Yeah.
22:47
David Drebin
Yeah, because those are… those… those are the locations. I love it. I think it's great. Okay, perfect. Yes. Okay.
22:47
Arseni
Okay, cool.
22:55
David Drebin
So, do you see what I mean with the order? It softens it up, it's like a dream, and then BAM! Like, now it's really good. Now, I really like this order a lot. Let me just take a picture for this. Now, that's all I wanted to do. That's all I wanted to do.
22:58
Arseni
And she kind of repeats the position of the horse. This girl repeats the position of the horse.
23:10
David Drebin
Oh, the girl jumped me off the diving board.
23:18
Arseni
Yeah.
23:20
David Drebin
Yeah.
23:22
23:33David Drebin
Yeah.
23:23
David Drebin
You know, Edgar, my chef, Freddy goes, it looks fake. I'm like, you know what? That's because it looks great. You know what I mean? It's like, whatever, I don't care what you think.
23:24
Arseni
No, which image, specifically?
23:33
David Drebin
The diving board, the diving board.
23:35
David Drebin
What do you think?
23:39
Arseni
It doesn't look fick to me, I mean.
23:42
David Drebin
Exactly.
23:44
Arseni
Could easily… no, I'm sure you photoshopped it, but this could have been… it could have been photographed, it was just cost a little way more, but it could have been photographed.
23:45
David Drebin
Exactly! Like, I would have gotten myself in unbelievable trouble if I had a girl doing this over and over again. I had to do it this way, you know?
23:54
Arseni
Yeah, and her dress would have gotten wet 10 times, so she should need to bring 10 dresses.
24:03
David Drebin
Exactly.
24:11
Arseni
Nightmare. But, yeah, that's how… that's how Halbert Newton would have done it, probably.
24:12
Arseni
40 years ago.
24:19
David Drebin
Well, we… well, yeah, well, it's a different… it's a different world now. You know, that whole era is totally over. Penn… think about that era. Penn.
24:21
David Drebin
Avedon.
24:30
David Drebin
Newton.
24:31
David Drebin
For Brits.
24:32
David Drebin
Peter Lindbergh, Patrick DiMarcelli, I mean, it just… it just doesn't exist anymore. David Guerra was the premier photographer in the world.
24:35
Arseni
Just as…
24:43
David Drebin
That's… I don't even look at his shit anymore, I won't even look at it. I mean, that says everything, because he's the best marketer, and he comes from a world of finance.
24:44
Arseni
But…
24:54
David Drebin
These photographers would all laugh at David Yero, but they would all love my shit.
24:55
David Drebin
If they saw my… if… I'm a photographer's photographer.
25:01
David Drebin
And he's a marketing… a marketer's marketer. Do you know what I mean?
25:06
Arseni
-
25:10
David Drebin
Like, I can't stand everything about David Yero. His look, the way he talks about his work, the girls, it's just… it's fucking terrible, but I think he's on the way down. I don't even look at his shit anymore.
25:11
David Drebin
It's just terrible. Anyways, I gotta focus on what we're doing, I love this, and then I gotta get… I gotta figure out a way for people to see the book.
25:21
David Drebin
How are people gonna see the book? You know what I mean?
25:29
Arseni
Hmm,
25:33
David Drebin
So, okay, it's great, it's great. We're good?
25:34
Arseni
Do your old books, do they sell on Amazon a little bit by bit, or not?
25:37
David Drebin
They're not… there's not a lot… go look, there's not a lot of availability.
25:43
David Drebin
There's not a lot… if you go to… if you go to Amazon right now.
25:46
26:10David Drebin
A lot of my books, I only have one copy of The Morning After, or two. You can't get it anymore.
25:52
David Drebin
I have two copies.
25:58
Arseni
Collector's edition, I think it had a crazy price, like $1,000.
26:00
David Drebin
You can't… you can get that on Gumroad. I did sell one to Nasty Luke and on Gumroad. She paid me. But, you know, look, if you go look at David Drebin, there's only 8 left in stock.
26:04
David Drebin
Right?
26:15
Arseni
Lovely.
26:15
David Drebin
One of the stories? No featured offers available. Nothing's available. I only have one… I only have one of this book.
26:16
David Drebin
It's crazy, right? I only have… I only have one copy of Love and Other Stories in my place. One copy, and I've got one copy of The Morning After. Let me see, hold on.
26:24
David Drebin
I've got one copy.
26:35
Arseni
Danger. Eight, 8 left, alright.
26:36
David Drebin
Love and Other Stories, and the morning after, I have one copy. I have one copy. How crazy is that?
26:39
Arseni
's good.
26:45
David Drebin
This is great, I don't care. I don't even care. I don't care. I don't care.
26:45
Arseni
You know?
26:49
David Drebin
Look, the 11th book is a lot less exciting than the first book.
26:50
David Drebin
Just like the 11th orgasm is a lot…
26:55
David Drebin
Less exciting than the first one. But I really love this book. It's just great… it's just great for the branding, and I have to just, start enjoying the process, because this is life,
26:59
David Drebin
I was 46 yesterday, I'm 56 now. It's crazy. And then I'll be 66, and I'll be 76, and then I'll be hopefully 86, and then you're dead. So, you gotta really kind of, enjoy… enjoy the process, because this is all we have. You know what I mean? Like, this is what we have, and that's it.
27:11
David Drebin
You know? Enjoy the good, enjoy the bad, learn from the shit with Michelle, you know? I told her on the phone today, I was like.
27:31
David Drebin
You're never… you, like, you're never gonna feel like it's good enough, ever, because I never feel like it's good enough either.
27:38
David Drebin
And that's the job.
27:45
David Drebin
You know, you're never gonna feel like it's good enough. That's called driving ambition.
27:47
Arseni
Yeah.
27:51
David Drebin
Zoom in?
27:52
Arseni
Yeah.
27:53
Arseni
Yeah.
27:55
David Drebin
So, okay, so I think we're good with everything, right?
27:55
Arseni
Okay, yeah, we'll, we'll talk.
27:59
David Drebin
I just gotta… I just wanna finish the book this week, and I wanna… once it's done, then I wanna make that… that flipbook PDF, please.
28:02
Arseni
Yeah.
28:10
David Drebin
I need to get that flipbook when it's done. That's not gonna take very long, right? That's fast, isn't it?
28:11
Arseni
Well, we'll have to find that 3D guy who does it, but probably, yeah, more or less fast, yes.
28:16
David Drebin
Okay? And then the website. How do you… are you… are you… I only want you to show it to me when it's ready to go.
28:23
Arseni
Well, I didn't show it to you because I didn't want you to see it without the intro. Now we have the intro that you like.
28:30
David Drebin
You wanna show it to me now?
28:37
Arseni
No, I… we need to upload that for mobile, because on mobile, we'll have a vertical intro, which we don't have yet. We might have it tomorrow.
28:40
David Drebin
Okay.
28:51
Arseni
Well, yeah, let's go another call.
28:51
David Drebin
How are the programmers doing?
28:53
Arseni
Good! It's all, it's all done. It's all done. We're just doing a bit more testing, a bit more testing.
28:55
29:12David Drebin
Beautiful. And then you'll put it on DreamHost, and you'll do all that shit for me. I don't have to worry about any of that stuff, right?
29:02
Arseni
Yeah.
29:07
David Drebin
And then, so then we just take this down and we replace it with this?
29:09
Arseni
Yes, we'll just have to update the content once more. Like, those interiors you sent us in the last few weeks, they have to…
29:12
David Drebin
I have to also… no, I have to add all the new images with the new interiors, which I haven't done yet.
29:21
David Drebin
I need all those… oh my god, I need all those interiors. How… can someone send me all the images? So then, like, because you have them all in our high-res, right? Could you send me in Dropbox so that I can make the interiors of all the new… of all the new images?
29:30
29:58Arseni
No problem.
29:45
David Drebin
Do you know what the images are, or do I have to tell you?
29:46
Arseni
No, because they're all in the book, of course we know, of course. The images for the book, we have them on Dropbox.
29:48
David Drebin
Images in the book, yeah, but there's images that I have not put on the website yet. Many images from the book.
29:55
David Drebin
Not all of the images from the book, but many of the images from the book are all… are not on the website, so whatever is…
30:03
David Drebin
In the book and not in the website, if you could send me those images.
30:10
Arseni
Okay, well, we'll figure out…
30:14
David Drebin
I can tell you what they are. I can tell you what they are. I can tell you what they are right now, I already know.
30:17
Arseni
Sure. Come on.
30:21
David Drebin
So, I would say, well, this is not the… these are… I have the titles, but the titles aren't really here.
30:23
David Drebin
Right?
30:29
Arseni
No, then, hold on. Let me see if I could find a PDF.
30:29
David Drebin
And I will have, I will have all of these, all these settings done, by Wednesday.
30:34
Arseni
Okay. Okay, cool.
30:43
31:24David Drebin
But I can tell you all the images.
30:45
Arseni
Okay, let me see if I can find PDF.
30:49
David Drebin
Because it can be very fast like this.
30:52
Arseni
Just a second.
30:57
David Drebin
Are you trying to find it right now?
31:58
Arseni
Yeah, trying to find the PDF with all the images.
32:00
Arseni
Okay, so, here's the PDF.
32:19
David Drebin
Yeah, we're not gonna have that dr… that… that…
32:23
David Drebin
That first page, right? Let me see the first page, Dream the World, it's not gonna look like that, right?
32:26
David Drebin
Yeah.
32:31
Arseni
No, this is… it's out there.
32:31
David Drebin
Yeah, okay, I can show… I can show you right now, okay? Okay. Second image?
32:35
David Drebin
Okay, so I need that image.
32:41
Arseni
Okay, let's name it. Riviera Drive.
32:43
David Drebin
Review of her dreams.
32:46
Arseni
Okay.
32:47
David Drebin
Next one, I need to.
32:49
Arseni
Okay, Thrill Seeker, okay.
32:50
David Drebin
Okay, keep going.
32:54
David Drebin
Hold on,
32:59
David Drebin
We… do I need settings for that? Wait, no, that's already in the Superstar Series, right? But we don't have… we don't have any settings for anything in the Superstar Series.
33:00
David Drebin
Right? They're not in settings.
33:09
Arseni
You're right.
33:12
David Drebin
Should we do settings for that, or not?
33:12
Arseni
I'll answer later after the call. I'll go to the website, I'll have a look, because Superstar, Supernova Series has a different design. I don't even know where those settings will go.
33:18
Arseni
I'll tell you after the call.
33:29
David Drebin
Oh, okay, if we don't… let me look right now, I'm just looking at the current site.
33:31
David Drebin
The Superstar series. I love the series. Hold on.
33:34
David Drebin
No, they all have settings. They all have settings right now. Yeah, they do.
33:38
David Drebin
I like the settings, they're all… they're all great, the settings, sorry, sir, they're great
33:42
David Drebin
Yep, we have settings, hold on.
33:46
David Drebin
Okay.
33:48
David Drebin
Okay, keep going.
33:49
34:01David Drebin
Next.
33:52
David Drebin
Yeah, I… okay, that's gonna go in… that's gonna go up.
33:53
David Drebin
That's gonna go, in the Dream series. That's not…
33:58
Arseni
Paradise, so Paradise City goes to the Dream Series, okay?
34:01
David Drebin
Yup, okay, next one.
34:05
David Drebin
That's going to the Dream Series, too.
34:07
Arseni
Okay.
34:10
Arseni
Private Paradise, the Dream Series, okay? Yeah.
34:11
David Drebin
Yeah, okay, keep going. Next one's going to the Dream Series 2, Dream Series 2.
34:13
Arseni
Higher calling, Dream Series.
34:20
David Drebin
Yep,
34:22
David Drebin
That's Dream Series 2.
34:23
Arseni
Secret Voyage Dream Series, okay.
34:25
David Drebin
Yep.
34:27
David Drebin
That next one's Dream Series 2.
34:30
Arseni
No, which one? Distance shores? Distance Shores.
34:32
David Drebin
Yeah. Do you think it confuses people to have the Dream series that's not in settings? Because they're not really art pictures, but I still love them, so they don't need to be in settings. You know what I mean? It sets up the set… it sets up the limited edition. You don't need that in settings. You know what I mean?
34:35
Arseni
Yeah.
34:51
David Drebin
It's like, if you have 800 images and settings, they're not special. So yeah, keep going.
34:51
Arseni
Yeah, I agree.
34:55
Arseni
Breaking news, okay.
34:58
David Drebin
That one there?
35:02
David Drebin
I kinda like that in settings, in limited edition. I'll do a setting for that.
35:03
Arseni
Stableman. Stableman. Yes.
35:12
David Drebin
I kind of like that in the setting, I think it's a great… I think it's a great image for a setting, yeah, I like that.
35:14
David Drebin
Real confidential?
35:20
David Drebin
Real images?
35:22
David Drebin
I don't know, I kinda want… I don't know, what do you think?
35:25
Arseni
You're asking if you… if you wanna… Dream series?
35:31
David Drebin
Dream series, or set, or limited edition artworks.
35:34
David Drebin
No, I think it's Dream Series.
35:39
Arseni
Yeah, I think it's drum series.
35:41
David Drebin
Because I want to put them together, I want to put them together in the Dream Series. Together, not separately.
35:43
David Drebin
Somehow. Okay, next one.
35:48
David Drebin
Oh!
35:54
David Drebin
Hold on a second.
35:55
David Drebin
Give me a second.
35:57
David Drebin
A second.
35:59
David Drebin
Keep going.
36:10
David Drebin
Here we go. Okay.
36:12
David Drebin
Oh yeah, that's, that's artwork, yep.
36:17
David Drebin
I gotta make a… I gotta make a setting for that.
36:21
Arseni
Okay, this goes… high stakes goes where? Grim Series?
36:24
36:38David Drebin
No artworks, limited artworks.
36:28
Arseni
Okay.
36:31
David Drebin
I kind of think that should go in the, limited edition artworks, too.
36:34
Arseni
Okay, yep.
36:38
David Drebin
Next one, too, next one, too.
36:39
Arseni
No, let's name it. Balloons Over Monaco goes to limited edition, okay?
36:41
David Drebin
Yes, yeah. That one too, that one too, yeah.
36:45
Arseni
Riviera Escape, also?
36:48
David Drebin
Yep.
36:51
David Drebin
I think that also goes in a setting.
36:53
Arseni
Yeah, but where? Limited edition?
36:58
David Drebin
Yeah, because the Dream Series, there's no settings.
37:00
Arseni
Yep.
37:03
David Drebin
Okay, keep going.
37:07
David Drebin
That next one there, next one there, Dream Series.
37:09
Arseni
Secret Summit?
37:12
David Drebin
Yep, Dream Series.
37:14
Arseni
Okay.
37:16
David Drebin
Dream Series?
37:16
Arseni
Wild…
37:18
David Drebin
No, that's already in, that's already there, that's already there, that's already there.
37:19
David Drebin
I kinda want this in the setting. That's gonna be in the setting.
37:25
Arseni
Okay, garden fever in a setting, okay.
37:28
David Drebin
Next one?
37:31
David Drebin
Setting your dream series, kind of love that. I kind of want a setting for that, too.
37:33
David Drebin
What do you think?
37:37
Arseni
Secret Passage.
37:38
Arseni
I just… I just… I'm not sure you want to…
37:44
Arseni
Separate, you know, limited edition, put them all in settings, as opposed to putting some of them in settings? Would it not give you more flexibility, where you don't have to put all of them in settings?
37:49
David Drebin
The ones that we don't put in settings are in the Dream Series.
38:04
David Drebin
Everything in limited edition artworks is in settings, and the Dream Series, they're not in settings, that's the difference.
38:09
Arseni
Okay, let's keep that clear separation.
38:15
David Drebin
Exactly.
38:18
Arseni
Okay.
38:19
David Drebin
Yeah, I want to put that in the setting, I want to put that.
38:21
Arseni
Okay, Secret Passage goes to limited edition, okay.
38:23
David Drebin
Yes.
38:27
David Drebin
Keep going.
38:29
David Drebin
I think these… Interesting.
38:32
David Drebin
I think that this one goes to the Dream Series, the other one…
38:39
Arseni
Purple beast.
38:44
David Drebin
But the other one goes into… goes into… what do you think? Do you think it should be the Dream Series, or do you think it's good enough for… I love it. Do you think it's good enough for, setting? What do you think?
38:45
Arseni
Yeah, I think it will sell. I think… I just think this image will sell. Hidden… Hidden Fields goes to limited edition.
38:56
David Drebin
Yes.
39:04
Arseni
Okay.
39:05
39:15Arseni
Into the wild, here's… here's…
39:08
David Drebin
It's already there, it's already there, it's already there, it's already in, sorry.
39:10
Arseni
No. We have to…
39:12
David Drebin
We have to change that outline, that border.
39:13
Arseni
But remember why we did it? Because… so that the… her leg is not in the gutter, or her torso is in the.
39:17
David Drebin
Yeah, I don't love it, though. I don't love it. I don't love it.
39:23
Arseni
Crisis.
39:26
David Drebin
Something else?
39:27
Arseni
Okay, I'll send you in WhatsApp later, because we have those other versions, I just have to find them.
39:28
David Drebin
Okay, no problem.
39:35
Arseni
Okay, we'll discuss this separately.
39:36
David Drebin
Keep going.
39:38
David Drebin
Keep going. Yeah. Oh, we're gonna delete that one, right?
39:44
Arseni
I know it's already outdated, this PDF, a little bit.
39:48
David Drebin
Yeah. I think that the Amore should go into limited edition in a setting, and I think the other one should go in the Dream Series.
39:52
Arseni
Okay, so after hours goes into the dream series, okay.
40:01
David Drebin
I think that goes into, limited edition, right there.
40:06
Arseni
Private time goes… Yeah. Okay.
40:09
David Drebin
Yep.
40:11
David Drebin
Oh, that's… that's limited edition, too, right there. And I'll get all these… I'll get all these settings for you tomorrow, yeah?
40:13
Arseni
Paris Royale goes and.
40:18
David Drebin
Oh, yes.
40:19
David Drebin
No, we already have that, we already have that. Next one, the Dream Series, that's the Dream Series.
40:23
Arseni
TLO talk goes to the Dream series.
40:28
David Drebin
Yep. Okay, we already have that, we already have that, we already have that.
40:31
David Drebin
Next one, Dream Series. Dream Series.
40:35
Arseni
Okay, night moves, goes to the drug series.
40:38
David Drebin
Next one, that's gonna be, limited edition, a setting, that's a setting.
40:41
Arseni
Access strategy? Yeah.
40:45
David Drebin
Setting up,
40:46
David Drebin
We have that, we have that.
40:49
David Drebin
We have that, we have that, we have that.
40:51
David Drebin
Yeah, that's… that's Dream Series right there.
40:54
David Drebin
Connor?
40:58
Arseni
We'll probably go to the dream series, okay.
40:58
David Drebin
Yep.
41:01
David Drebin
Okay, we have that already.
41:03
David Drebin
That's gonna go with the Dream Series, too.
41:05
Arseni
Private signal to the Dream series, okay?
41:07
David Drebin
Yeah, those two are going to the Dream Series also, those two?
41:09
Arseni
So, those two are double vision and hidden agenda.
41:12
David Drebin
Yep.
41:15
David Drebin
Yep, we have that, we have that, we have that. Yep, keep going. Next one, Dream Series 2.
41:18
David Drebin
No, go back up. Yep.
41:23
Arseni
Secret. One…
41:26
David Drebin
No, above that.
41:27
Arseni
Okay, open cigarette, it goes to.
41:29
David Drebin
Yeah.
41:31
Arseni
Great.
41:31
David Drebin
Go back, go lower.
41:32
David Drebin
Open Secret, is that the title?
41:35
Arseni
Well, that's the… if you think that's the wrong title, we'll correct it.
41:39
41:52David Drebin
I think it's the wrong title, man. I don't think that's Open Secret.
41:43
Arseni
Okay, then I'll check it.
41:46
David Drebin
I don't think that's open secret. I don't think so.
41:48
Arseni
Let me check.
41:51
Arseni
Check on…
41:53
David Drebin
Let's keep going, let's keep going. It might be, but I don't know. Let's keep going.
41:55
David Drebin
Next one's, setting, that one's a setting right there.
42:06
Arseni
No, or which one? Private interiors?
42:10
David Drebin
Yes.
42:12
David Drebin
Private entrance. Yeah, private entrance.
42:12
Arseni
Correct, entrance. Private entrance. Okay.
42:16
David Drebin
Yup.
42:18
Arseni
It goes to limited edition, okay.
42:19
David Drebin
Yes.
42:21
David Drebin
I kinda like this as a…
42:23
David Drebin
Interior, but I think it's the Dream Series. What do you think?
42:26
Arseni
I think it's a dream series, because I don't think this image is a fault.
42:31
David Drebin
Yeah, I agree. It's a setup, it's a setup. Dream Series, yeah. Next one, Dream Series 2, Dream Series?
42:36
David Drebin
Dream Series.
42:42
Arseni
Doubletakers Dream Series. No, I have to name it. A red-handed goes to the.
42:43
David Drebin
Dream Series.
42:49
Arseni
Yeah. Okay.
42:50
Arseni
This one? Dream?
42:53
David Drebin
I kinda… I kinda like it as a… as a… as a setting.
42:55
Arseni
Yeah.
43:00
David Drebin
Yeah, me too, I like it a lot, yeah.
43:02
43:10Arseni
Okay, so, Fever Dream, go…
43:03
David Drebin
And then go lower.
43:06
43:1743:23Arseni
Keyword Dream goes to limited edition.
43:08
43:29David Drebin
And so does the other one, underneath.
43:10
Arseni
He seems to die, goes into the…
43:13
David Drebin
I gotta make that, I gotta make that too, yeah. Okay, there we go! If you could send those, if you could send me a link to these, so then… then high res enough, so that I can put them in settings, that'd be great.
43:16
Arseni
I can send you a link to all of them, but it's just the ones we discussed, I can send it to you tomorrow, if you want just the ones that we just discussed.
43:26
David Drebin
Just the ones we discussed for the settings. Everything else you know what to put in the Dream Series.
43:32
Arseni
Okay.
43:36
David Drebin
So all… I don't know, how many do we have in limited edition? 10? 10 new images?
43:38
Arseni
I don't know, I can tell you, AI will tell us after this call.
43:43
David Drebin
Okay, perfect. Okay, so we're almost done. We're, like, literally by the end of the week, we will be done with…
43:47
David Drebin
Everything.
43:54
David Drebin
With the site and the book. Agree?
43:55
Arseni
I… I mean, I know there are time-consuming things, like the map that we're rebuilding, so… but yeah, we know what to do, and I think we'll be done.
43:59
David Drebin
Okay, excellent.
44:09
Arseni
Okay, cool.
44:10
David Drebin
Thank you so much, man. And then we'll do more, and then we'll get the newsletters going, right? I'll send… I'll send that to Mira tomorrow, the newsletters. Okay, bye.
44:11
Arseni
Okay. Thank you.
44:19
David Drebin
Thank you. Thank you.
44:21